Whew, there is a whole lot to unpack in Bethenny Frankel’s latest podcast episode…
The reality star ended up in hot water last week without a discussion well-nigh pronouns and transgender kids on her show Just B. She faced a lot of criticism for her comments, but decided to “double down” on her controversial takes in the squatter of her supposed “cancellation.”
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The trouble began when she brought up a recent wits at the school attended by her daughter, Bryn Hoppy. She shared:
“We have to go into the fact that I did a Zoom for my daughter’s school and [had] the pronouns conversation with each teacher, each parent, each child. And my daughter says in school, too, that everybody has to say their pronouns.”
The Skinnygirl founder continued:
“And my daughter didn’t plane know what hers were, and I can’t plane vituperation [her], I know what I am or what I think I am, but I have never said it out loud — it hasn’t come up for me — and so she said she didn’t know exactly how to say it, someone said it surpassing her.”
So, it sounds like the 11-year-old is learning something new and useful in school. Good for her! (BTW, most of us learn well-nigh pronouns in elementary school, plane if they aren’t tying to a lesson well-nigh gender identity.)
Bethenny’s stories only got increasingly troubling from there. She went on to share some “gossip” from parents who sent their kids to peerage summer camps (which Bryn did not attend). She dished on what she tabbed the “craziest year in zany history,” saying:
“One issue that occurred was it’s an all-girls camp. and a person with a penis, who identifies as stuff a girl, went to the zany and was in the bunk with the girls. And the girls saw her — considering it’s her, considering it’s a male torso but identifying as a woman — so the other girls saw a penis. They’re like 9, 10 years old… So, the parents obviously weren’t that happy.”
Not content to leave it at that, the entrepreneur widow that “this girl with a penis was making out with a lot of the variegated girls at the camp.”
Umm, why in the world does Bethenny think it’s okay to air out the merchantry of a young transgender kid that she has veritably no relation to?! Well-nigh an occurrence at a zany her child didn’t plane attend? It’s veritably inappropriate to discuss the genitals of kids that AREN’T YOURS on a podcast, let vacated a vulnerable trans girl who, it sounds, has once been the target of other adults’ anger.
Reflecting on all this, the RHONY licentiate stated:
“My daughter understands all of this, it’s amazing, they have variegated language, variegated understandings, but she moreover hasn’t seen a penis. So, in a camp, she’d see girl parts so I think these conversations are moreover fluid.”
….Huh? Bethenny keeps talking well-nigh this like seeing other kids’ genitals is a major part of the zany experience!
Musing remoter on this “fluid” conversation, the 50-year-old advocated for sending trans children to camps “where there were kids in the same situation” (because segregation is unchangingly a good idea!), criticized the idea of inclusive bathrooms and spaces on the understructure that a kid’s gender identity might be a “phase” (“Maybe a mother isn’t ready for her child to see a penis in a bunk and understand that child identifies as a girl”), and plane questioned whether trans athletes competing in sports was “fair.” Basically, she hit transphobic bingo.
Of course, these comments faced serious saltate online. Without Page Six covered the incident, she wrote on Twitter:
“@PageSix says I’m transphobic so it must be true…or listen to @justbpodcast & decide for yourself. Gotta sell papers.#donthatetheplayerhatethegame “
When one follower expressed thwarting in the lack of apology, the TV personality retorted:
“Not apologizing….so don’t hold your breath. I didn’t do a single thing wrong. People need to be worldly-wise to have discussions without fearing the cancelation citations you get excited to give. Wrong celeb. Find someone wrung to troll.”
Yet when the follower tried to explain that it wasn’t well-nigh cancellation, but education, Bethenny dismissed:
“You will have to listen to the podcast. I said zero incorrectly. Everyone can have a perspective and be unshut to a discussion that is ‘fluid.’ That’s what happened.”
Another user accused her of doing “damage” to the LGBTQ community, she defensively replied:
“I didn’t do one thing wrong. Conversations are healthy. Try it. Doubling down. I’m not a celeb who panics in fear of cancelation Bc I didn’t say something precisely how you needed to hear it. I don’t have a transphobic unorthodoxy on my soul so take it elsewhere. Watch handmaids tale.”
We don’t think Bethenny monologuing on her own podcast counts as a “conversation.” And what’s Handmaid’s Tale got to do with it?!
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She unfurled to “double down” in her other Twitter replies, too, promising that she would write the situation in the next Just B episode:
Listen to the podcast. Then comment. I was veritably not wrong. And I’m going to discuss this then this week. Thankfully I have a platform to sieve what the media loves to distort. @justbpodcast ps. I’m not wrung of cancelation so not wrung of charged discussions. https://t.co/FDVsKUCWan
— Bethenny Frankel (@Bethenny) September 28, 2021
Zero point zero but that doesn’t sell magazines & newspapers….people have been wrung to have real conversations. If you didn’t read your script surpassing speaking, people get so excited. Come at me…I’m here..and the conversation will protract @justbpodcast https://t.co/fpyg1NgMTk
— Bethenny Frankel (@Bethenny) September 28, 2021
Woof. This is a lot. As much as Bethenny keeps championing “conversation,” she doesn’t seem very unshut to having one with the polity most unauthentic by her comments. Instead, it sounds like she’s just trying to rack up increasingly sustentation for her podcast. An restoration would be nice — but that would require understanding why her comments were wrong. Maybe she could try having an very conversation with transgender advocates on her show, rather than simply insisting that she’s right well-nigh everything.
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